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Genesis contradicts Theistic Evolution

Posted in theistic evolution with tags on December 4, 2008 by egoeimi3

If you ever debate and theistic evolutionist there needs to be one thing set straight.  It’s impossible, very impossible.  You can’t mix the two.  Here are some facts about Genesis which contradicts the Bible.


See this Link and see the contradiction between Biblcal Order in Creation vs the Order of events in Theistic Evolution which is actually the same view as the order of events in Evolution:

If you look at the order of events, evolution says one thing and the bible says another.  The theistic evolutionist has to reword the bible or say it’s not a real even because 7 literal days is impossible.  Well how is it impossible if Supernatural ism exist?  If something greater than us can violate the very laws that were Created who says it can’t happen?  The unbeliever who denies supernatural ism of course.  So the two just can’t be reconciled. 


God of the Gaps (Article)

Posted in theistic evolution with tags on December 1, 2008 by egoeimi3

Question: “What is the God of the gaps argument?”

Answer: The “God-of-the-gaps” argument refers to a perception of the universe in which anything that currently can be explained by our knowledge of natural phenomena is considered outside the realm of divine interaction, and thus the concept of “God” is invoked to explain what science is, as yet, incapable of explaining. In other words, only the “gaps” in scientific knowledge are explained by the work God, hence the name “God of the gaps.”

The idea is that as scientific research progresses, and an increasing number of phenomena are explained naturalistically, the role of God diminishes accordingly. The major criticism commonly states that invoking supernatural explanations should decrease in plausibility over time, as the domain of knowledge previously explained by God is decreasing.

However, with modern advances in science and technology, the tables have been literally turned. With the advent of electron scanning microscopes, we have been able to observe the intricate workings of the cell for the first time. What had originally and simplistically been thought to be nothing more than a ‘blob’ of protoplasm, is now seen to be far more complex and information packed than had ever been conceived of previously.

Much of what had once been filed away as ‘solved’ in the early twentieth century is now found to be inadequately explained by naturalism. Twenty-first century technology is increasingly revealing gaping holes in conventional evolutionary theory. The information-rich content of the “simple” has only recently been understood at any real level and found to be anything but simple. Information can now be understood to be inherently non-material. Therefore, materialistic processes cannot qualify as sources of information.

In reality, a belief in God can be derived by means of an objective assessment, rather than the subjective conjecture that may have been the case millennia ago. But many people simply deny what is obvious to them. The Bible addresses those very people: “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse” (Romans 1:18-20). The God-of-the-gaps argument is an example of “suppressing the truth” because it relegates God to a ‘backup’ explanation for those things which cannot yet be explained by natural phenomena. This leads some to the faulty conclusion that God is not the omnipotent, omnipresent, absolute Being of which Scripture testifies.

There is much for which the natural sciences simply cannot provide an explanation, such as the origin of the time/space/matter continuum and the fine-tuning thereof, the origin and subsequent development of life itself, the origin of the complex, and specified information systems inherent in all living things, which cannot (nor ever will be) explained by natural means. Thus one cannot rationally divorce the supernatural from the observed universe, proving once again that “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1).

Recommended Resource: Reclaiming Science from Darwinism: A Clear Understanding of Creation, Evolution, and Intelligent by Kenneth Poppe.

Theistic Evolution (Article)

Posted in theistic evolution with tags on December 1, 2008 by egoeimi3

Question: “What is theistic evolution?”Theistic Evolution is one of three major origin-of-life worldviews, the other two being Atheistic Evolution (also commonly known as Darwinian Evolution) and Special Creation.


Atheistic Evolution says that there is no God and that life can and did emerge naturally from preexisting non-living building blocks under the influence of natural laws (like gravity, etc), although the origin of those natural laws is not explained. Special Creation says that God created life directly, either from nothing or from preexisting materials. (There are a variety of Special Creation hypotheses reflecting a variety of Theistic traditions. For the purpose of this article we will focus on the biblical Christian perspective.)

Theistic Evolution says one of two things. First, either there is a God, but He wasn’t directly involved in the origin of life. He may have created the building blocks, He may have created the natural laws, He may even have created these things with the eventual emergence of life in mind, but at some point early on He stepped back and let His creation take over. He let it do what it does, whatever that is, and life eventually emerged from non-living material. This view is similar to Atheistic Evolution in that it presumes a naturalistic origin of life.

The second alternative of theistic evolution is that God did not perform just one or two miracles to bring about the origin of life as we know it. His miracles were multitudinous. He led life step by step down a path that took it from primeval simplicity to contemporary complexity, similar to Darwin’s Evolutionary Tree of Life (fish begot amphibians who begot reptiles who begot birds and mammals, etc). Where life was not able to evolve naturally (how does a reptile’s limb evolve into a bird’s wing naturally?), God stepped in. This view is similar to Special Creation in that it presumes that God acted supernaturally in some way to bring about life as we know it.

There are numerous differences between the biblical Special Creation perspective and the Theistic Evolution perspective. One significant difference concerns their respective views on death. Theistic evolutionists tend to believe that the Earth is billions of years old and that the geologic column containing the fossil record represents long epochs of time. Since man does not appear until late in the fossil record, theistic evolutionists believe that many creatures lived, died and became extinct long before man’s belated arrival. This means that death existed before Adam and his sin.

Biblical Creationists (as Biblical Special Creationists are often called) believe that the earth is relatively young and that the fossil record was laid down during and after Noah’s Flood. The stratification of the layers is thought to have occurred due to hydrologic sorting and liquefaction, both of which are observed phenomena. This puts the fossil record and the death and carnage which it describes hundreds of years after Adam’s sin.

Another significant difference between the two positions is how they read Genesis. Theistic evolutionists tend to subscribe to either the Day-Age theory or the Framework Theory, both of which are allegorical interpretations of the Genesis 1 creation week. Biblical creationists subscribe to a literal 24-hour reading of Genesis 1. (See “Does Genesis chapter 1 literally mean 24-hour days?” on this site.)

Both of the two theistic evolutionist views are flawed from a Christian prospective in that they don’t line up with the Genesis creation account. Consider:

Theistic evolutionists imagine a Darwinian scenario in which stars evolved, then our solar system, then earth, then plants and animals, and eventually man. The two theistic evolution viewpoints disagree as to the role God played in the unfolding of events, but they generally agree on the Darwinian timeline. This timeline is in conflict with the Genesis creation account. For example, Genesis 1 says that the earth was created on Day One and the sun, moon and stars weren’t created until Day Four. Some “progressive creationists” argue that the wording of Genesis suggests the sun, moon and stars were actually created on Day One but they couldn’t be seen through earth’s atmosphere until Day Four, leading to their placement on Day Four. This is a bit of a stretch as the Genesis account is pretty clear that the earth didn’t have an atmosphere until Day Two. If the sun, moon and stars were created on Day One, they should have been visible on Day One.

Another example of discordance is that the Genesis account clearly says that birds were created with sea creatures on Day Five while land animals were not created until Day Six. This is in direct opposition to the Darwinian view that birds evolved from land animals. The biblical account says that birds preceded land animals. The theistic evolutionist view says exactly the opposite.

One of the most unfortunate trends in postmodern Christianity is that of reinterpreting Genesis to accommodate evolutionary theories. Many well-known Bible teachers and apologists have caved in to the evolutionists and have come to believe that adhering to a literal interpretation of Genesis is somehow detrimental to the credibility of Christians. If anything, evolutionists lose respect for those whose belief in the Bible is so tenuous that we are willing to compromise it and embrace their ideas. Although the number of true creationists may be dwindling in academia, several faithful organizations such as Answers in Genesis, the Creation Research Society and the Institute for Creation Research have affirmed that the Bible is not only compatible with real science, but affirm that not a single word in the Bible has ever been disproved by true science. The Bible is God’s living Word, given to us by the Creator of the universe, and His description of how He created it is not compatible with the theory of evolution. Trying to combine the two is like trying to combine oil and water—it just won’t mix.

Recommended Resource: Reclaiming Science from Darwinism: A Clear Understanding of Creation, Evolution, and Intelligent by Kenneth Poppe.